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When Women Win is a podcast where female role models and boss ladies from around the world share their inspirational stories and practical tools and strategies they used to succeed. It is currently the number 1 most listened to podcast in the Middle East.


On each episode, host and creator Rana Nawas finds out the stories and deconstructs the tools and strategies of what is a remarkable lineup of boss ladies: Kristina Kuzmic, Afra Atiq, HRH Princess Tessy Antony, Dr. Auma Obama, and many more.

Mar 4, 2019

Reshma Saujani committed her first act of bravery at the age of 33 when she ran for political office in New York. She lost – badly. Instead of being defeated by it, she was set free… she discovered her bravery muscle and started to exercise it more. For example, she set up an NGO about coding when she knew nothing about start-ups – or coding. Girls Who Code is a US non-profit organization working to close the gender gap in technology and change the image of what a programmer looks like. Reshma’s TED talk, "Teach girls, bravery not perfection," has more than four million views and sparked a national conversation about how we’re raising our girls. This led her to write her 3rd book "Brave, Not Perfect"

During our chat we discussed society’s impact on girls and what we could do differently. I asked Reshma for practical tools on how we ourselves could be braver. In fact, this was a great follow-on to the last When Women Win episode with Najla Al Midfa, which explored resilience: how can you build resilience unless you’re allowed to fail?

And finally, we talked about coding and how it cultivates bravery in girls and gives them permission to be less than perfect.

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